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		<title>Mashup, Location and London</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last night I was at LBi in the old Truman Brewery on London&#8217;s Brick Lane for Mashup&#8217;s Location &#8230; It&#8217;s Moving On. I&#8217;ve spoken at a Mashup event once or twice before but this time the organising team threw caution &#8230; <a href="http://www.vicchi.org/2010/02/26/mashup-location-and-london/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night I was at <a href="http://www.lbi.co.uk/">LBi</a> in the old <a href="http://www.trumanbrewery.com/">Truman Brewery</a> on London&#8217;s Brick Lane for Mashup&#8217;s <a href="http://www.mashupevent.com/location-event">Location &#8230; It&#8217;s Moving On</a>. I&#8217;ve spoken at a Mashup event <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/vicchi/mashup-location-privacy-where-i-am-and-why-its-ok-to-lie-about-this">once</a> or <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/vicchi/mashup-being-digital-open-location">twice</a> before but this time the organising team threw caution to the wind and asked me to chair the panel discussion.</p>
<p>Prior to kicking the panel discussion off, I attempted to gently suggest some topics to my fellow panelists that we might want to discuss.</p>
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<p>We started off with a quick review of my <a href="http://www.vicchi.org/2010/02/01/the-theory-of-stuff/">Theory of Stuff </a> and how it applies to deriving value from location and location data and briefly visited Gartner&#8217;s hype curve which puts location based services on the so called Plateau of Productivity. This is a good thing apparently. I then presented the panel with a series of  &#8221;<em>yes, but</em>&#8221; style trade offs to mull over.</p>
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<li><strong>Smartphones vs. other phones</strong>; 21% of phones expected to have GPS by EOY 2009, but what about the other 79% without?</li>
<li><strong>LBS and LBMS vs. other (older) location systems (APIs and so on)</strong>; LBS and LBS apps get all the publicity but what about key location APIs, platforms and services?</li>
<li><strong>&#8220;where&#8217;s my friends&#8221; vs. creating value and creating data</strong>; &#8221;where&#8217;s my friends&#8221; doesn&#8217;t work as a (sole) business proposition but creating value added data does &#8212; FourSquare and Gowalla are creating geotagged local business listings from check ins.</li>
<li>&#8220;<strong>where&#8217;s my business&#8221; vs. location based advertising</strong>; Tesco and Starbucks are the latest companies to launch apps to drive customers to their premises, but what&#8217;s needed to drive location based ads?</li>
<li><strong>&#8220;where I think you are&#8221; vs. &#8220;where I say I am&#8221;</strong>; For a user, being able to be their own source of truth is imperative, but how can you reconcile this with your business needs?</li>
<li><strong>&#8220;where you are&#8221; vs. &#8220;where you&#8217;ve been&#8221;</strong>; (AKA tracking vs. privacy) How to walk the fine line between providing enhanced relevance via a user&#8217;s location and being accused of tracking them.</li>
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<p>I was then joined by <a href="http://twitter.com/osbornec">Chris Osborne</a> (#geomob and Ito World), <a href="http://twitter.com/ahousley">Alex Housely</a> (Rummble), Jon Fisher (Vodafone), <a href="http://twitter.com/migcan">David Glennie</a> (MIG) and <a href="http://twitter.com/freecloud">Alan Patrick</a> (Broadsight) for an hour&#8217;s worth of lively, animated, opinionated and occasionally profane panel discussion, making the job of ring-mastering all the more challenging and a whole lot of fun at the same time.</p>
<p><a class="flickr-image aligncenter" title="The #mashupevent audience look on from the bowels of Brick Lane" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/vicchi/4387374829/"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4010/4387374829_b73e0b9bec.jpg" alt="The #mashupevent audience look on from the bowels of Brick Lane" /></a></p>
<p>The audience chimed in with a variety of questions, some pointed, some speculative and some downright rambling before we retired to the bar and then out to sample one of Brick Lane&#8217;s finest curry houses; it&#8217;s a shame we didn&#8217;t find one of the finest but a decent post event wind down took place anyway in the basement of an establishment which had &#8220;Spice&#8221; in the name. I think.</p>
<p>All in all, a geotastic evening all round.</p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12px;">Written and posted from the Yahoo! London office (51.5141985, -0.1292006)</span></p>
<h2>Update: 1 March 2010</h2>
<p>It seems that the topic of the Mashup* event and the buzz of publicity that the team created on social media streams, including <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/">Twitter</a>, were sufficient to get my introductory deck onto the <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/featured">Featured Presentations &amp; Documents</a> section of the <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/">SlideShare</a> home page.</p>
<p><a class="flickr-image aligncenter" title="SlideShare Home Page" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/vicchi/4397432161/"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2681/4397432161_3886d2fb86.jpg" alt="SlideShare Home Page" /></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12px;">Updated and posted from the Yahoo! London office (51.5141985, -0.1292006)</span></p>
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