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		<title>Plenaries, Privacy and Place</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Day one of this year&#8217;s AGI GeoCommunity conference saw the geoweb track draw a sizeable, if varying, share of the delegate audience; some sessions were crammed tight and reduced to standing room only whilst others had a slightly less cozy &#8230; <a href="http://www.vicchi.org/2009/09/24/plenaries-privacy-and-place/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Day one of this year&#8217;s AGI GeoCommunity conference saw the geoweb track draw a sizeable, if varying, share of the delegate audience; some sessions were crammed tight and reduced to standing room only whilst others had a slightly less cozy but still enthusiastic crowd.
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<div>Showing that&nbsp;<a href="http://twitter.com/stevenfeldman">Steven Feldman</a>, the conference chair, started as he meant to continue, both the introductory plenaries were from people well known in the neogeography end of the geographic spectrum;&nbsp;<a href="http://twitter.com/pmbatty">Peter Batty</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="http://twitter.com/ajturner">Andrew Turner</a>.</div>
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<div>Peter started talking about the&nbsp;<a href="http://www.slideshare.net/pmbatty">Geospatial Revolution</a>&nbsp;and about how geo is now mainstream after starting off life as a disruptive technology. He touched on crowdsourcing, neogeography and how geospatial data is really just another data type.</div>
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<div><a href='http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/vicchi/Rpcu0MOJGjYOsvAlbFNeAnLSEhUWwWjge6rwB13mmztWZ41wWtB10rq7UZ9S/230920092254.jpg'><img src="http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/vicchi/XUShsxLmGC0E54uYNpSrvG3Wo2dFFHBX4BQnFjDfnjgFuH8w7MNRK0xYEKNx/230920092254.jpg.scaled.500.jpg" width="500" height="375"/></a> </div>
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<div>Due to Steven Feldman&#8217;s over running welcome plenary, Andrew gave u<a href="http://www.slideshare.net/ajturner">s a view on How Neogeography Killed GIS</a>&nbsp;in record time; talking to an appreciative crowd on place, data, and how neogeographers see GIS professionals (answer: they don&#8217;t).</div>
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<div>The geoweb track kicked off with Tim Warr, down on the programme as working for Microsoft, announcing &#8220;<i>I&#8217;m not working for Microsoft as of yesterday</i>&#8221; and then promptly launched into a talk on&nbsp;<a href="http://www.slideshare.net/geocommunitylive/tim-warr-cloud-computing-and-gis-all-hype-or-something-useful">Cloud Computing and GIS; All Hype or Something Useful?</a>&nbsp;and covered the <i>good cloud</i> (accessibility, cost and speed), the <i>bad cloud</i> (security, control and continuity) and the <i>realistic</i> cloud where you don&#8217;t put all your clouds in one basket.</div>
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<div>I was particularly pleased to see that&nbsp;<a href="http://developer.yahoo.com/geo/geoplanet/">WOEIDs</a>&nbsp;made their debut at GeoCommunity thanks to&nbsp;<a href="http://twitter.com/terrycojones">Terry Jones</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="http://twitter.com/tomtaylor">Tom Taylor</a>.</div>
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<div><a href='http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/vicchi/tyRuzplNn0LaEbQSqEwwnEf3IaPgSDMHolaOswYMJfAl68aIDJwWJxYA7uu6/230920092260.jpg'><img src="http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/vicchi/cf2bBBo53JfuB4WBA3ChRHHeAZBYzW5FOVSKSrjsHjQ0UjgVVazJvM3JhVyJ/230920092260.jpg.scaled.500.jpg" width="500" height="375"/></a> </div>
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<div>Terry spoke about&nbsp;<a href="http://www.slideshare.net/geocommunitylive/terry-jones-using-fluiddb-for-storage-in-locationaware-software">Using FluidDB for Storage and Location Aware Software Apps</a>. If you haven&#8217;t come across&nbsp;<a href="http://www.fluidinfo.com/">FluidDB</a>&nbsp;before, think about it as a wiki database for the web, or as<i> Terry says &#8220;Why don&#8217;t our architectures let us work with information more flexibly?</i>&#8220;; I strongly advise you look into this further and see what potential this platform has. WOEIDs were mentioned to a somewhat bemused audience but with a nice mention of my talk on this topic later today.</div>
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<div>Tom took this one step further and gave a well received and insightful talk on the way Flickr are creating crowd sourced&nbsp;<a href="http://code.flickr.com/blog/2008/10/30/the-shape-of-alpha/">neighbourhood definitions</a>&nbsp;from geotagged photos, all tagged with WOEIDs naturally. Tom&#8217;s&nbsp;<a href="http://boundaries.tomtaylor.co.uk/">Boundaries</a>&nbsp;microsite shows just how powerful this can be, visualising and displaying neighbourhoods where no official definition exists, such as in London. Tom is a natural evangelist for this sort of data discovery process and caused some wry smiles when he added <i>&#8220;I&#8217;m not an employee of Flickr or Yahoo! They haven&#8217;t paid me to say this</i>&#8220;.</div>
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<div>I took part in the&nbsp;<a href="http://www.vicchi.org/2009/09/24/location-and-privacy-where-do-we-care/">Privacy: Where Do We Care?</a>&nbsp;panel on location and the implications for privacy which I&#8217;ve blogged about earlier.</div>
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<div>The day rounded off with a series of soapbox style <i>georants</i>; 15 slides, 20 seconds per slide and with the presenters having <i>no</i> control over the timing. Lots of themes were covered, some serious like Chris Osborne&#8217;s ITO World product pitch, some &#8230; interesting &#8230; like the Pitney Bowes boy&#8217;s geojokes, some semi disrespectful like my &#8220;<i>Neo</i> this and <i>Paleo</i> that &#8230; it&#8217;s all just <i>Geo</i>&#8221; (which will end up on my&nbsp;<a href="http://www.slideshare.net/vicchi">SlideShare</a>&nbsp;account as soon as I find a net connection with some bandwidth) and some just rip roaringly hilarious like&nbsp;<a href="http://twitter.com/iapainter">Ian Painter</a>&#8216;s paeon to palegeography which featured&nbsp;<a href="http://twitter.com/mpdaly">Martin Daly</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://twitter.com/edparsons">Ed Parsons</a>, Darth Vader and Isaac Newton. All of which were received by an increasingly well lubricated crowd from the soapbox arena, also know as the bar.</div>
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<div>Photo credit:&nbsp;<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/vicchi">myself</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/morley.jeremy">Jeremy Morley</a>.</div>
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		<title>GeoCommunity &#8217;09 &#8211; Bridging the Gap between the GIS and Neogeo Worlds?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 09:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s probably an oversimplification of a complex issue but geographic conferences or events can be somewhat polarised towards one of two extremes. On the one hand you have the solid, slightly reassuring and established GIS world whilst on the other &#8230; <a href="http://www.vicchi.org/2009/09/07/geocommunity-09-bridging-the-gap-between-the-gis-and-neogeo-worlds/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s probably an oversimplification of a complex issue but geographic conferences or events can be somewhat polarised towards one of two extremes. On the one hand you have the solid, slightly reassuring and established GIS world whilst on the other we have the upstart, slightly shouty, web-centric neogeography community. These two worlds don&#8217;t always co-exist particularly well and each can be equally distrustful of the other. Where 2.0 in the US tries valiantly to get these two worlds to talk to one another and to share a stage but it doesn&#8217;t always work well; the GIS community brandish their desktop GIS system while the neogeo hackers point to their PHP based web mashups.</p>
<div>But this year in Stratford-upon-Avon something brave, intriguing and altogether worthwhile is happening; both communities are being represented at the <a href="http://www.agi2009.com/">AGI&#8217;s GeoCommunity &#8217;09</a> conference, which takes place in a little over two and half weeks time. Yes, there&#8217;s GIS practitioners and yes, there&#8217;s neogeo developers but there&#8217;s also speakers covering all points inbetween; just take a look at the <a href="http://bit.ly/x2EwH">PDF of programme for this year</a>. Even the tag line for the conference, <em>Realising the Value of Place</em>, places emphasis on the meeting of the geo-worlds.</div>
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<div style="text-align: center;"><strong><em>AGI GeoCommunity &#8217;09 &#8211; &#8216;Realising the Value of Place&#8217;</em></strong></div>
<div style="text-align: center;"><em>September 23rd &#8211; 24th 2009, Holiday Inn, Stratford-upon-Avon, UK</em></div>
<div>True, the big names and the big players of the overall geo community are well represented; Yahoo!, Google, Microsoft, ESRI, Pitney Bowes MapInfo, Ordnance Survey and I&#8217;m fortunate enough to be representing <a href="http://www.ygeoblog.com/">Yahoo! Geo Technologies</a> on the second day but take a closer look. <a href="http://twitter.com/mcknut">John McKerrell</a> of <a href="http://mapme.at/">mapme.at</a> is speaking, so&#8217;s <a href="http://twitter.com/gravitystorm">Andy Allan</a> on <a href="http://opencyclemap.org/">OpenCycleMap</a>, <a href="http://twitter.com/tomtaylor">Tom Taylor</a> is talking about neighbourhood <a href="http://bit.ly/3BUmL">boundaries</a> and <a href="http://twitter.com/terrycojones">Terry Jones</a> will be making us all location aware by using <a href="http://fluidinfo.com/">FluidDB</a>, plus keynotes from <a href="http://twitter.com/ajturner">Andrew Turner</a> and from <a href="http://bit.ly/NVxdf">Peter Batty</a>.</div>
<div>This is a staggering and diverse cross section of the entire geo-community and <a href="http://twitter.com/StevenFeldman/">Steven Feldman</a>, this year&#8217;s conference chair and <a href="http://twitter.com/osbornec/">Chris Osborne</a>, from London&#8217;s <a href="http://bit.ly/wBOEs">#geomob</a>, is behind the geoweb track of sessions, deserve recognition for being able to bring this all together; you can find out more at <a href="http://bit.ly/1O0HLN">Steven&#8217;s</a> and  <a href="http://bit.ly/jgrRN">Chris&#8217;s</a> respective blogs.</div>
<div>It&#8217;s going to be a geo-tastic conference and I&#8217;m looking forward to seeing the usual geo-suspects as well as meeting new friends and colleagues; see you all there.</div>
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