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		<title>Plenaries, Privacy and Place</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Day one of this year&#8217;s AGI GeoCommunity conference saw the geoweb track draw a sizeable, if varying, share of the delegate audience; some sessions were crammed tight and reduced to standing room only whilst others had a slightly less cozy but still enthusiastic crowd. Showing that&#160;Steven Feldman, the conference chair, started as he meant to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Day one of this year&#8217;s AGI GeoCommunity conference saw the geoweb track draw a sizeable, if varying, share of the delegate audience; some sessions were crammed tight and reduced to standing room only whilst others had a slightly less cozy but still enthusiastic crowd.
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<div>Showing that&nbsp;<a href="http://twitter.com/stevenfeldman">Steven Feldman</a>, the conference chair, started as he meant to continue, both the introductory plenaries were from people well known in the neogeography end of the geographic spectrum;&nbsp;<a href="http://twitter.com/pmbatty">Peter Batty</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="http://twitter.com/ajturner">Andrew Turner</a>.</div>
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<div>Peter started talking about the&nbsp;<a href="http://www.slideshare.net/pmbatty">Geospatial Revolution</a>&nbsp;and about how geo is now mainstream after starting off life as a disruptive technology. He touched on crowdsourcing, neogeography and how geospatial data is really just another data type.</div>
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<div><a href='http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/vicchi/Rpcu0MOJGjYOsvAlbFNeAnLSEhUWwWjge6rwB13mmztWZ41wWtB10rq7UZ9S/230920092254.jpg'><img src="http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/vicchi/XUShsxLmGC0E54uYNpSrvG3Wo2dFFHBX4BQnFjDfnjgFuH8w7MNRK0xYEKNx/230920092254.jpg.scaled.500.jpg" width="500" height="375"/></a> </div>
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<div>Due to Steven Feldman&#8217;s over running welcome plenary, Andrew gave u<a href="http://www.slideshare.net/ajturner">s a view on How Neogeography Killed GIS</a>&nbsp;in record time; talking to an appreciative crowd on place, data, and how neogeographers see GIS professionals (answer: they don&#8217;t).</div>
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<div><a href='http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/vicchi/GPbfpo9MECvGrwtK9RB1SYamL8nuMZtrIg1Kw2eJJ9RhDxakBbNCTO47zEDi/230920092256.jpg'><img src="http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/vicchi/sDsxPQjvyEQfJIzHstWxw9Qogz9gOtjLF162ahb3WHfeumuqQjzf0ghTlhZ3/230920092256.jpg.scaled.500.jpg" width="500" height="375"/></a> </div>
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<div>The geoweb track kicked off with Tim Warr, down on the programme as working for Microsoft, announcing &#8220;<i>I&#8217;m not working for Microsoft as of yesterday</i>&#8221; and then promptly launched into a talk on&nbsp;<a href="http://www.slideshare.net/geocommunitylive/tim-warr-cloud-computing-and-gis-all-hype-or-something-useful">Cloud Computing and GIS; All Hype or Something Useful?</a>&nbsp;and covered the <i>good cloud</i> (accessibility, cost and speed), the <i>bad cloud</i> (security, control and continuity) and the <i>realistic</i> cloud where you don&#8217;t put all your clouds in one basket.</div>
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<div>I was particularly pleased to see that&nbsp;<a href="http://developer.yahoo.com/geo/geoplanet/">WOEIDs</a>&nbsp;made their debut at GeoCommunity thanks to&nbsp;<a href="http://twitter.com/terrycojones">Terry Jones</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="http://twitter.com/tomtaylor">Tom Taylor</a>.</div>
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<div><a href='http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/vicchi/tyRuzplNn0LaEbQSqEwwnEf3IaPgSDMHolaOswYMJfAl68aIDJwWJxYA7uu6/230920092260.jpg'><img src="http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/vicchi/cf2bBBo53JfuB4WBA3ChRHHeAZBYzW5FOVSKSrjsHjQ0UjgVVazJvM3JhVyJ/230920092260.jpg.scaled.500.jpg" width="500" height="375"/></a> </div>
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<div>Terry spoke about&nbsp;<a href="http://www.slideshare.net/geocommunitylive/terry-jones-using-fluiddb-for-storage-in-locationaware-software">Using FluidDB for Storage and Location Aware Software Apps</a>. If you haven&#8217;t come across&nbsp;<a href="http://www.fluidinfo.com/">FluidDB</a>&nbsp;before, think about it as a wiki database for the web, or as<i> Terry says &#8220;Why don&#8217;t our architectures let us work with information more flexibly?</i>&#8220;; I strongly advise you look into this further and see what potential this platform has. WOEIDs were mentioned to a somewhat bemused audience but with a nice mention of my talk on this topic later today.</div>
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<div>Tom took this one step further and gave a well received and insightful talk on the way Flickr are creating crowd sourced&nbsp;<a href="http://code.flickr.com/blog/2008/10/30/the-shape-of-alpha/">neighbourhood definitions</a>&nbsp;from geotagged photos, all tagged with WOEIDs naturally. Tom&#8217;s&nbsp;<a href="http://boundaries.tomtaylor.co.uk/">Boundaries</a>&nbsp;microsite shows just how powerful this can be, visualising and displaying neighbourhoods where no official definition exists, such as in London. Tom is a natural evangelist for this sort of data discovery process and caused some wry smiles when he added <i>&#8220;I&#8217;m not an employee of Flickr or Yahoo! They haven&#8217;t paid me to say this</i>&#8220;.</div>
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<div>I took part in the&nbsp;<a href="http://www.vicchi.org/2009/09/24/location-and-privacy-where-do-we-care/">Privacy: Where Do We Care?</a>&nbsp;panel on location and the implications for privacy which I&#8217;ve blogged about earlier.</div>
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<div>The day rounded off with a series of soapbox style <i>georants</i>; 15 slides, 20 seconds per slide and with the presenters having <i>no</i> control over the timing. Lots of themes were covered, some serious like Chris Osborne&#8217;s ITO World product pitch, some &#8230; interesting &#8230; like the Pitney Bowes boy&#8217;s geojokes, some semi disrespectful like my &#8220;<i>Neo</i> this and <i>Paleo</i> that &#8230; it&#8217;s all just <i>Geo</i>&#8221; (which will end up on my&nbsp;<a href="http://www.slideshare.net/vicchi">SlideShare</a>&nbsp;account as soon as I find a net connection with some bandwidth) and some just rip roaringly hilarious like&nbsp;<a href="http://twitter.com/iapainter">Ian Painter</a>&#8216;s paeon to palegeography which featured&nbsp;<a href="http://twitter.com/mpdaly">Martin Daly</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://twitter.com/edparsons">Ed Parsons</a>, Darth Vader and Isaac Newton. All of which were received by an increasingly well lubricated crowd from the soapbox arena, also know as the bar.</div>
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<div><a href='http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/vicchi/HbKWTdc8SZC3Qp1KOLauS1TOVIwNEcV5AaOC7PMSk1BN3WgjloeGALiI1vOz/3948257262_1b1b1c76f5_b.jpg.scaled.1000.jpg'><img src="http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/vicchi/nKd4XUpWdBc0IN3hSOju7lYNaho4RqdWcZlPrDT1T703MoRXdHZnV2Ay4kAK/3948257262_1b1b1c76f5_b.jpg.scaled.500.jpg" width="500" height="375"/></a> </div>
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<div>Photo credit:&nbsp;<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/vicchi">myself</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/morley.jeremy">Jeremy Morley</a>.</div>
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